#155: Unexpected Entrepreneur Journeys and Finding Inspiration with Holly Curby

Have you ever done something you didn't want to do — and it turned out to be an incredible decision?

Holly Curby is no stranger to finding inspiration in all kinds of people and places, but she never expected to be an entrepreneur or write a book. Now, she's done both and is thriving.

We're talking about her unexpected business growth and her book journey, from writing to a deeply personal cover. Plus, her top tools and how you can find a mentor who's right for you.

Highlights of our conversation

  • Whether Holly actually ever wanted to become an entrepreneur or write a book — and how she got into both situations. (5:24)

  • How Holly wrote a book that she didn’t really want to write. (7:13)

  • What Holly hopes readers get out of her book Face-Lift: Embracing Hope through your Heartaches and why she put herself on the cover. (10:02)

  • Why Holly believes in having a mission statement and how to improve yours. (14:21)

  • One of the most surprising parts about being an entrepreneur. (17:22)

  • The two most helpful tools that have helped Holly across her career journey. (18:56)

  • The most challenging speaking gig Holly has ever had — and how she turned into her one of her most memorable. (21:42)

  • How to find a mentor and Holly’s most impactful mentors. (25:55)

  • Holly’s top 3 vacation destinations. (30:54)

Where to find Holly Curby

Learn more about Holly Curby, or pick up a copy of her book!

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    Have you ever done something that you didn't want to do and it actually ended up paying

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    dividends?

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    Maybe it's as simple as when you were a kid and you didn't want to eat your vegetables.

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    Your mom threw some broccoli, some carrots, threw some rutabaga, maybe some bok choy.

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    Maybe she was getting real exotic with the different vegetables thrown on your plate.

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    Then you grew up big and strong and you're able to do so much more than you could do

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    if you hadn't eaten those vegetables and you were only eating pop tarts mixed with Captain

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    Crunch mixed with seven different types of cookies.

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    That does sound pretty delicious so I'm sorry if I just made your mouth water, but you can

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    combine it with the vegetables, throw a little kale on top, all kinds of goodness.

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    Or maybe you ended up in a career that you never thought you'd be in because you said

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    yes to something that previously you had said, I'm good, no thanks.

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    Holly Kirby is a leadership coach, a speaker, a podcast host, an entrepreneur, and an author.

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    And those last two, she had no intentions of being, she never wanted to start her own

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    business, she never wanted to write a book.

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    But guess what, she's doing both of those things and her book comes out on April 28th,

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    Facelift Embracing Hope Through Your Heartaches.

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    So we're talking all about how she's stumbled into this entrepreneurial journey of hers,

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    how it's been going, what she's seen that surprised her along the way, as well as some

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    of her most helpful tools, why she believes in having a mission statement, and her most

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    challenging speaking gig, which turned into perhaps her most memorable one.

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    There's lots of good shenanigans going on, so you'll love to see it.

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    One quick housekeeping item before we get rolling, if you enjoyed this podcast episode

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    today, by the end of it, please tell someone else about the show.

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    Be like, hey, Good People, Cool Things, that's a pretty cool show.

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    They can listen to any episode at goodpeoplecoolthings.com or anywhere they're listening to a podcast.

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    You are listening to this podcast right now, you can even send a link.

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    I'm also a big fan of Podlink, which is a great way to share a show, even if it's not

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    this show.

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    I would be very distressed if you shared another show with someone and didn't share this show

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    as well.

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    But either way, you go to Podlink, you search your favorite show, then it sends a link for

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    every platform that that show is on.

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    It's so simple, it's so lovely.

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    I wish more people knew about Podlink, so go tell someone about Podlink too, while you're

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    telling them about this show.

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    I'm Joey Held, this is Good People, Cool Things, and here's my conversation with Holly Kirby.

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    To kick it off, can you give us your name and your elevator pitch, but also the type

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    of elevator that we're riding on?

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    Absolutely.

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    So I'm Holly Kirby, and I am, I think my hands are kind of in a lot of different things,

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    which I'm absolutely loving.

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    One is I have the privilege of representing the brand of a well-known national restaurant

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    that is a family and faith-based as well.

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    So I love doing that, and they're so good to me, and I love being able to be a part

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    of the community and show care and all of that.

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    But then on the side, and that's what I think we're more going to be talking about, is things

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    that have developed with my leadership coaching and motivational speaking and being the host

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    and producer of Holly's Highlights podcast, and then also my new book.

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    So that is a new venture that is a new one coming on as it releases April 28th.

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    Of course, I have two kids, and those are my pride and joy.

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    So I love being a mom, and that would be, as I would say, my top priority.

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    So the type of elevator we're riding on is, I would just say one where we can talk, right?

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    Just want to be able to get to know each other and encourage one another and inspire hopefully

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    those who are listening, as well as be inspired ourselves.

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    I love it.

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    I love it.

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    And without giving too much away about this restaurant, what's the best thing on the

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    menu?

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    Well, I like the waffle fries.

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    Lovely.

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    Yes, yes.

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    But a lot of people like their chicken.

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    Okay.

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    I like it.

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    I like it.

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    Yes.

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    I was like, I don't know how much to give away, but I like the, we'll let people do

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    their own math.

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    That's fine.

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    Absolutely.

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    Now a question I always like to ask is a question you wish you asked more frequently.

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    And I usually kind of save this for later in the episode, but I think it's a nice kind

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    of kickoff type of thing because you mentioned a book, you mentioned how you're an entrepreneur.

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    Did you ever want to write a book or become an entrepreneur?

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    No, no, no, no, I didn't.

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    And in fact, the whole entrepreneur thing just kind of fell in my lap.

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    And how it really did was as I was being asked to go and speak at these motivational opportunities

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    of whether it be to speak for cities, speaking for schools and colleges, speaking for nonprofit

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    organizations, opportunities would come where people would want to talk with me and they

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    just found both the approachability as well as some wisdom within it, which I was grateful

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    for, but that added a course to my time.

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    Right?

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    And although I'm so, so happy and feel truly honored to be able to help others out, I found

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    that I had to set a boundary and that boundary became coaching.

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    And so from there with the speaking going on and the coaching and then my mom's, I would

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    say nagging of writing this book, I went to my tax advisor and just said, Hey, what do

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    I do with all this?

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    You know, I want to make sure that everything is on the up and up and I'm doing things as

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    I should.

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    And he said, it's time to start a business.

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    And there started my entrepreneurship adventure.

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    So no, never even thought I would do it.

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    But of course it just one path led to another and voila, here we are.

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    So as far as wanting to write a book, no, no, I didn't want to do that either.

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    And as I've shared before, my mom was the catalyst for that.

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    And so the day that she died, she actually was diagnosed with glioblastoma brain cancer

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    almost four years ago.

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    And it took her pretty quickly after seven and a half months.

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    And so the day she died, I promised her I would write that book.

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    And of course, as we all know, then the pandemic hit and suddenly I found myself with time

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    to write the book.

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    And then last year it was picked up by a publisher and now it's getting ready to release April

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    So here we are.

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    Fantastic.

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    So clearly there's like a motivation behind it since that's a promise you made to your

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    But in talking with other authors either on this podcast or elsewhere, sometimes it can

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    still be a challenge.

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    It's definitely a slog to write a book.

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    And I think that really doesn't go away even if you've written 8, 10 or more books like

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    I know having written one book, I was like, this took a very long time.

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    And there'd be days where I'm like, I'm going to get so much done and then something happens

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    and all of that.

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    So what you said, there's more time during the pandemic, but I'm sure it wasn't all just

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    one lovely linear, I'm trying to remember what the official name of it is.

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    It's the straight line graph that we all remember from math class.

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    It's probably some bumps and twists along the way.

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    So how did you find the entire process of writing a book that you kind of didn't want

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    to write?

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    Yeah, that's a great question.

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    I think the process for me was fairly easy.

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    Once I sat down and thought, okay, now I have the time to write the book, I'm going to push

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    this thing out.

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    And I had it out pretty quickly.

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    I want to say I had it out, I think it started around March and it was done by July.

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    So the writing process itself was to me came very easy.

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    It was the steps that followed that were my bumps.

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    And I think I was my biggest bump of all and not just one time, but repetitively, right?

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    Because I would get so discouraged and in my own head of, well, maybe I was to promise

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    her that I would write the book, but I never said anything about publishing it, right?

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    So I would try to do like almost these head games with myself of, you know, it's the imposter

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    syndrome.

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    You know, you're not good enough.

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    Who are you to write this book?

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    And then the discouragements of just challenges that would come along of fears, right?

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    The fears that can set in as well of what are people going to think or how is this going

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    to be accepted or will it be rejected or all of this stuff that comes along in the

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    past.

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    So for me, it was more of the bumps, the repeated bumps of wanting to put on those breaks and

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    just be like, you know what?

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    I fulfilled my promise of writing it.

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    I never said I was going to do anything else, but it was then that something would come

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    along to to encourage me along the way, whether it would be an author I would reach out to.

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    And he offered to pay my way to go to Georgetown University to attend a writing class.

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    And it was like, wait, who does that?

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    You know, right.

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    So I was so grateful for not just the offer, it was the encouragement that that provided

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    to me of someone believing in me and going, you can do this.

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    This is the next step.

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    Or another author I had reached out to.

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    And she graciously got back to me and just provided some insights and even a connection

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    of basically like a golden ticket per se in reaching out to a publisher.

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    And once again, it was like, this doesn't happen.

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    You usually have to go through a literary agent to be able to get to that acquisition

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    editor in the publishing business.

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    So again, just time after time, there was encouragement of open doors just pushing me

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    through and going, yeah, this is the next step.

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    This is the next step.

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    I think that's something that I found during writing my book, too, of just like how many

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    people are willing to help in some way, which you really don't realize until I mean, I'm

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    not saying everyone listening has to go write a book to learn this.

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    It's like when you're doing kind of a massive undertaking of some kind, it is cool to see

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    people in some cases kind of coming out of the woodwork.

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    There were some people I hadn't talked to in probably months that heard about it or

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    I reached out to them because I was like, hey, you seem like you might be interested

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    in this.

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    Here's the information.

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    And then they're like, oh, yeah, I'm happy to help and whatever I can, which I thought

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    was a very cool twist on things.

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    And I know we've talked about the book.

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    I don't know if we've actually said the title, but it's called Facelift Embracing Hope Through

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    Heart Eggs, a two part question for you.

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    Obviously, what can readers expect?

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    But I always like, I think this is a very probably a dumb question for an audio only

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    podcast, but I always like to talk about the cover of books because that is despite the

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    saying of not judging a book by its cover, that is what a lot of people do.

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    And they'll see the cover and that's like the first thing that catches their eye.

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    Maybe they get to read a blur, but it might just be like cover alone draws them in.

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    And you have yourself on the cover because it is a very personal journey and story.

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    I would never want my face to be on a cover of the book.

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    So was that something that you always had in mind?

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    And how terrifying was it to have yourself on the cover of your book?

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    Let's go back to I never wanted to write this book.

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    No, it was extremely, extremely vulnerable for me.

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    And yes, I am a person who lives with intentionality.

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    And so the entire book is filled with which is that it is so intentional on every level.

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    And so when it came to the cover and different things that we were looking at, it took me

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    back to goodness about a year after my not even my divorce, a year into my separation.

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    And I was actually on a trip with my mother and my two kids.

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    And I saw this painting where this lady was in this just very haggard room, paint kind

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    of falling off of the walls.

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    And there was shattered glass everywhere on the ground.

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    And she was just stretched out in this bright red dress and dancing so carefree.

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    And I remember seeing that picture and just feeling a connection with it.

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    That's how I'm feeling.

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    Like I feel that my life has shattered as I knew it.

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    And yet I just wanted to remind myself and I felt like God was reminding me, you're going

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    to make it and you're going to get to a point where you can be carefree.

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    You can dance again and you can live again.

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    And so the cover going back to that is that I wanted to encompass all of that, of bringing

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    that hope to the readers that whatever is going on in life, no matter how shattered

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    and destroyed things can seem or feel, there is such hope and you will overcome this.

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    You will thrive from this and it can be used also.

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    So that's where the book cover came about.

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    So on the bottom, you'll see the shattered glass and that is specifically from that painting

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    that I saw.

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    And of course, that kind of haggard background reflects that as well.

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    And then the computer on my lab definitely correlates with the social media impact.

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    And you'll find that spread throughout the entire book and just this perception of social

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    media always having a negative influence.

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    Well, no, it's how do we choose to use it?

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    Right.

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    We've got to take ownership of things like that.

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    And so how will we use it?

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    And throughout the entire book, you can see that I pressed into using social media to

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    try to be real and raw and authentic at the same time, encourage others.

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    I was being so encouraged by them.

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    So I loved how the creative editor of the publishing company that I'm with even put

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    a little flower on the front cover, just showing that from this dirt that beauty can come.

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    So it never was a pre-thought out of, oh, I have my face on the cover.

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    No, I am.

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    If you know me, you know that is not me.

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    It's very vulnerable, vulnerable moment.

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    And then of course to put it out there, it's like, okay, here you go.

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    So yeah, yeah, that was hard, but it is what it is.

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    And throughout the whole book, you get the genuine raw me.

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    So that's where I am on the front cover too.

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    Excellent.

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    So we'll expect a sequel next year.

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    I don't know about that.

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    This gave it my all.

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    So talking a little more on the broad entrepreneurial spectrum, I think something just from a quick

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    little basic research for this, that a mission statement is very important to you.

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    And I think that can be a step that a lot of entrepreneurs sometimes overlook or maybe

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    kind of have a vague sense of it.

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    Maybe it's a tactic instead of a mission statement.

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    So if you don't mind, could you share your mission statement and what makes from like

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    a mission statement to a really good one?

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    Yeah.

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    Mine would be to encourage, inspire, and equip others to intentionally live their life.

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    Pretty basic.

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    And that's just who I am.

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    I like to encourage other people.

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    I don't realize the inspiration that comes.

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    I still, I have a hard time sometimes believing that things that I share are inspirational,

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    but that is something that has been reflected back to me in the comments I've received.

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    So things that we can use that we don't even realize about our life that truly can inspire

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    others.

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    And then equip.

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    And how do we equip them is it's not just have them one of those sessions, raise it

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    there and hash everything out.

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    No, it's, okay, then what do we do with this?

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    How can we use this?

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    Where can we take this?

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    How can we grow from this, learn from it, and just have that self-development mindset,

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    that growth mindset?

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    So taking those three and personally impacting them into each of our lives of living our

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    life intentionally.

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    And so I look at everything that I do with the podcast, with the book, with the writing

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    that I'm involved in, with my website, with my speaking, everything, social media.

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    I go back to how is this encouraging?

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    How is it inspiring?

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    How is it equipping?

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    And if it's not one of those, it's not going to make the cut.

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    So it helps me stay grounded too.

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    And we can, you know as well that everything, there's so many different squirrels to go

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    off on, right?

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    And so just when we think, oh, I should be doing that, or we'll see someone that's in

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    our genre of what they do as a creative artist or an entrepreneur.

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    And you think, oh, I need to add that.

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    Well, that's not necessarily for us.

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    Let them succeed in that.

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    And blowing out someone else's candle doesn't make your shine any brighter, right?

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    So encourage them in that area.

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    But stick with what your niche is.

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    Stick with who you are and what comes natural and authentically to you.

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    And so I just find a mission statement helps ground you so you don't chase those squirrels

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    that go back to, okay, what is my intention?

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    What is my purpose in this?

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    I like that.

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    And I had a candle blowing, or blowing light, a lit candle right before jumping on this

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    recording.

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    So I had to blow it out.

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    So I like that metaphor of blowing someone else's candle out.

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    Doesn't make your shine brighter.

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    But it does mean my dogs will not be starting a fire in the house.

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    So I'm all for that.

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    Smart move.

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    Smart move.

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    Yeah.

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    All for it.

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    All for it.

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    There are safety issues too.

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    Exactly.

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    Exactly.

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    Now, entrepreneurship wasn't always the plan.

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    Wasn't the plan at all, really.

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    And then I think even talking with people who, like when they were five, they're like,

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    I want to start a business.

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    Like, that's been their hope and dream their whole life.

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    There's still all kinds of surprises and unforeseen things.

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    So what's something about being an entrepreneur that surprised you?

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    I think one is the challenges.

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    There's going to be a challenge with anything, but the challenges that you're going to have

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    to overcome.

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    And in my case, myself, you know what, I talk on some of my podcast episodes of one of my

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    biggest issues was that, as I referred to earlier, the imposter syndrome, where you're

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    just thinking, who am I to do this?

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    And are people going to learn from this and grow from this?

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    And is this the direction I should be going?

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    And so the challenges you're going to have to overcome, not necessarily to succeed, because

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    if you're doing, if you're on the right path, you're supposed to be on, success is going

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    to come.

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    But there's another thing is what does success look like to you?

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    So success to me is not going to be the fame or the fortune.

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    It's going to be the purpose of going back to, is it encouraging?

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    Is it inspiring?

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    Is it equipping people?

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    And if it is, that has been successful to me.

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    So you've got to look at the challenges that you're going to present to yourself, but then

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    also that are going to come along the way to just be able to press through some things

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    to go, no, I am on that right track and keep going.

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    I feel like I see these discussions on Twitter all the time lately of someone being like,

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    hey, I need to better take control of my calendar.

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    I've missed six months of emails because I'm so bad at checking email or whatever.

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    And then they're asking for a resource or a tool or something like that.

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    So in your journey, have you found whether it's an organization tool or some kind of

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    technology or maybe it's just the act of journaling or whatever, but some sort of resource that

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    has been very helpful to you that you think might help some other people?

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    Well, those who I work with would laugh because they would tell you, yes, it's a pen and a

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    piece of paper.

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    I am so old school.

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    There's so many apps out there that work for people and that's great.

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    And there's so many different resources and gadgets available.

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    I truly am old school.

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    I always have a pen and a piece of paper or a pad paper with me.

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    I'm always taking notes.

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    I'm always jotting down my to-do list.

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    And so I'm staying productive.

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    I think that is one thing is we can definitely learn our personality traits and you can take

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    personality assessments for those.

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    One of my favorite is discover your strengths.

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    And that really takes you through looking at kind of your top five and helps you understand

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    a little bit more about yourself.

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    So for myself, I know that I'm an achiever.

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    And so I always have to have a goal.

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    And I also have to like, well, I tend to like to just check things off.

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    And so therefore I know having that piece of paper and that pen with me, I'm able to

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    jot down to keep me productive, keep me achieving.

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    But then also there's such self-gratification, I guess, and being able to check something

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    off.

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    So I think ultimately it's going to depend on what works for you.

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    And everyone's going to be so different.

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    For some it's that app.

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    For others, it's having a mentor that helps push them through it or a leadership or a

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    life coach that holds them accountable.

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    So there's so many different avenues and resources, but it's what works for you.

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    And at the end of the day, my pad of paper and my pen are pretty much all that I need.

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    Crossing something off a list is so gratifying.

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    Isn't it?

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    Just the act of crossing.

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    So I empathize.

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    Do you have, since you're so, you always have a pen and paper, do you have like a preferred

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    pen?

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    Or do you have like a pen and paper that you're like, I need the BIC 5500 or whatever?

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    I feel like you're like reading into my soul right now.

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    I do.

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    And I can't say that it is a brand, but it is a color.

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    I have to have a purple, a pink, or a blue.

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    And when I say blue, I'm not talking just like your regular writing pen blue.

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    I'm talking almost like a felt blue or even like a turquoise blue if you're going to go

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    with the ink.

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    But yeah, I do.

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    I have to have color.

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    I love color.

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    I have to have something about colorful, well color that just brings life to color and just

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    brings me joy and kind of just makes me smile.

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    So yeah.

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    And I do color code things too.

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    Maybe a little OCD.

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    Maybe a little bit.

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    Well, I like that.

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    I was going to ask if there's certain codes for each color.

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    So lovely.

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    Lovely to hear.

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    Yeah.

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    So one of the elements that you've mentioned is your speaking career as well.

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    And I always like to ask anyone that does anything that's like on a stage, what's one

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    of the worst gigs that you've had?

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    Ooh, one of the worst gigs.

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    That's a really good question.

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    I have been so fortunate to be able to speak with so many that are very respectful and

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    accommodating.

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    I want to be accommodating, just like, I guess, giving you attention and encouragement and

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    even validation if we're being honest.

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    So I can't say that I've had a negative experience.

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    However, I can say I had the most challenging experience, and that was with my health.

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    It was a few years ago, and I was speaking at a women's Christmas tea, and they had,

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    oh goodness, three to 500 people that I was speaking in front of.

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    And to make matters worse, it was about an hour and a half or so away from where I lived.

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    And so I told them, you know, I don't need a hotel or anything.

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    I'll just drive up.

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    Well, ended up a blizzard that night.

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    Total total blizzard.

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    So driving there and not being able to see more than, I swear, you know, maybe five inches

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    in front of you, it was horrible.

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    And it was in a canyon.

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    So right.

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    So let's just make matters worse.

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    I feel like back when our parents would tell us, you know, I walked to school in our bare

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    feet, both ways.

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    Well, that's how I felt going to this place that I was going to go speak.

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    It was very hard to get there, and accommodations for that couldn't have been worse.

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    However, it was the health that I was experiencing.

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    I was experiencing some laryngitis, and so I was having a hard time even being able to

    423

    00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:11,400

    speak and all the way up there like I'm drinking water and tea and doing the throat lozenges.

    424

    00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760

    And I thought, how in the world am I going to speak?

    425

    00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,160

    How is this even going to happen?

    426

    00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,160

    And I had no clue.

    427

    00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,160

    I really didn't.

    428

    00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,620

    I thought I was going to have to get there, show that like go to communicate with them

    429

    00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:24,000

    so they could hear that, wow, she really has nothing.

    430

    00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,880

    And then we'd have to go to Plan B, you know, type thing.

    431

    00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,480

    Like I really wasn't sure how this was going to come out.

    432

    00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,360

    But I got up there when we got into the administration group that was overseeing the event.

    433

    00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,920

    You know, they take me into the kind of the green room and we go to talk and they can

    434

    00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600

    hear I have nothing but a whisper.

    435

    00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,600

    And they're like, are you okay?

    436

    00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,600

    Are you going to be able to do this?

    437

    00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,600

    I'm like, I don't know.

    438

    00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,840

    We know we're just going to have to see.

    439

    00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,240

    So the good thing is, is we had about a 30 or 45 minute kind of dinner beforehand where

    440

    00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,960

    everyone was kind of just getting to know each other and so forth and connecting before

    441

    00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,500

    I was to go up.

    442

    00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:04,120

    And so they took me to this nice honored spot to sit and they told everyone around me, don't

    443

    00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,600

    do anything to have her talk to you.

    444

    00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720

    She has to save her voice for up there because she's losing her voice.

    445

    00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200

    And I remember the looks on their faces, but so fortunately they had allowed me to bring

    446

    00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240

    my mom with me and she was always my biggest supporter.

    447

    00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,320

    And so she just carried that conversation for me the entire time.

    448

    00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640

    And I sat there again drinking and drinking.

    449

    00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:28,760

    So by the time I went up, total praise to God, I was able to have a voice for that 30

    450

    00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760

    minutes that I spoke.

    451

    00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560

    And I was so, so grateful.

    452

    00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,640

    So once I was done with that, then I was able to go back and sit and drink and all of that

    453

    00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,640

    type of stuff.

    454

    00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,680

    So anyhow, I was, I was amazed.

    455

    00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,840

    I was able to complete that, but so thankful to God that he gave me the voice just long

    456

    00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,800

    enough and going home, I had no voice.

    457

    00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800

    It was gone again and I didn't have it for a few days.

    458

    00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:55,000

    So truly, truly amazing, amazing opportunity, but truly something I credit to God.

    459

    00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000

    That is fantastic.

    460

    00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,400

    I would have loved to see the reactions of like, no, no, no, she can't talk.

    461

    00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,400

    Right?

    462

    00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,400

    Talk amongst yourself.

    463

    00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,400

    She, she does not speak.

    464

    00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,520

    Well, and for me, I'm such a talker that I was like, oh my gosh, I feel so bad.

    465

    00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,960

    Like there's so much guilt right now.

    466

    00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,960

    Have I hurt your feelings?

    467

    00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960

    Or I was like, no, just get over it.

    468

    00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,960

    That is fantastic.

    469

    00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,440

    Now something else we've kind of touched on a little bit of, of all the different people

    470

    00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:27,700

    who have helped out in various stages along the way, which I think ties in nicely with

    471

    00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,360

    mentorship in general.

    472

    00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:34,800

    And I think people, I know sometimes like, especially when I was growing up, I'd hear

    473

    00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,400

    mentor and I was like, oh, this is like an older person who's been through a lot that

    474

    00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,040

    I can just go meet up with for like four hours and be like, Hey, tell me everything.

    475

    00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040

    Tell me all your secrets.

    476

    00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,040

    Soak it in, soak it in.

    477

    00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:55,680

    Which yes, which very well could be a mentorship, but it can look all kinds of different ways.

    478

    00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,800

    So how can people go about finding a mentor that is a good fit for them?

    479

    00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,800

    And do you have a single person who's been your most impactful mentor?

    480

    00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,800

    Yeah.

    481

    00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800

    Let me answer.

    482

    00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,840

    I'm going to answer those backwards.

    483

    00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,880

    So first of all, do I have a mentor?

    484

    00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,880

    Absolutely.

    485

    00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,400

    And I have been so blessed that my mentors have come so close in proximity to me as well

    486

    00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,720

    as relationally to me.

    487

    00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,860

    So first and foremost, the most spiritual person I know is my dad.

    488

    00:26:21,860 --> 00:26:26,880

    He is a retired senior pastor, was for over 30 years.

    489

    00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,480

    And so I know I can go to him with anything and everything.

    490

    00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160

    And he's one truly, I just, it's like sitting at the feet of Jesus, right?

    491

    00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,120

    I just want to soak it up, soak it up.

    492

    00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,120

    And I just can't get it enough.

    493

    00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,260

    My brain just doesn't work like that.

    494

    00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:40,240

    So he is definitely my spiritual mentor.

    495

    00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,240

    And then my mom, I'm not sure if I've ever known someone to have a heart like my mother.

    496

    00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,560

    And so she was one I could go to with anything in life, whether it be raising my kids or

    497

    00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,180

    how to overcome this, this hurt I felt in a relationship, a friendship or, or what to

    498

    00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,720

    do in this situation.

    499

    00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,000

    Or even as I shared, she would come to all my speaking gigs and, and just give me critiques

    500

    00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,800

    afterward of, oh, you could have improved here.

    501

    00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800

    Oh, I like really this, you know, whatever.

    502

    00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,160

    So she was a great mentor in that.

    503

    00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600

    My sister and her husband are just exceptional parents.

    504

    00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,640

    And so they are a mentor to me in the parental role.

    505

    00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,320

    And then of course, my brother, I know of no other strong business man, business woman,

    506

    00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840

    business man, for that matter than my brother.

    507

    00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240

    And so he's been some wise counsel on leadership and in business.

    508

    00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280

    So those are my circle.

    509

    00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,640

    And that's where I would go to advise listeners that it doesn't have to be one person.

    510

    00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,360

    And so often we can sit there and go, okay, we're going to look for one person to mentor

    511

    00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,360

    me.

    512

    00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,440

    And my mom, she used to always say growing up, have someone that you look up to that

    513

    00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560

    is a mentor to you, but then pass that on to someone.

    514

    00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,400

    But I think we've kind of developed into an age where it's not just that one person, but

    515

    00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,400

    it's more of a team.

    516

    00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,080

    And I think that's where it's so important to not be the smartest person in the room,

    517

    00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,080

    right?

    518

    00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,880

    Or the smartest person at the table, because what are you learning from?

    519

    00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880

    What are you growing?

    520

    00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,880

    How are you growing?

    521

    00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,080

    And so it's so important to surround yourself with other people who are exceptional in areas

    522

    00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:09,240

    where perhaps you're a little bit weaker or just not as educated or things just don't

    523

    00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,440

    come as natural or gifted to you.

    524

    00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240

    And you can look for those in all different arenas.

    525

    00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,900

    That might be in if you're involved in church, in your church, or if you're involved in community

    526

    00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:24,480

    groups or networking groups, or again, at work or in your own family, friendships, even

    527

    00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,480

    neighbors.

    528

    00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840

    I had a neighbor that moved a few years ago.

    529

    00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,600

    And when I was getting my master's degree, my math is just not my forte, right?

    530

    00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,600

    We were talking math earlier and I'm like, sure, whatever you want to say.

    531

    00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600

    I'm not going to try and guess what that line is.

    532

    00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040

    But he was a great mentor to me in that.

    533

    00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,560

    And I totally credit him as to how I even passed that class.

    534

    00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,040

    So not to be so narrow minded that we think this is the only way a mentor looks and this

    535

    00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,360

    is the only place we can find a mentor.

    536

    00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,360

    Be more open.

    537

    00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,700

    And our mentors can come from all ages too.

    538

    00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:02,520

    When my mother was a younger pastor's wife, she had older people in the church congregation

    539

    00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,560

    teach her how to do canning.

    540

    00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,680

    And that is something she was able to then throughout the years teach other people and

    541

    00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000

    then even do for others, right?

    542

    00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:18,320

    At the same time, she also was able to learn how to sew and so forth from some of the younger

    543

    00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,480

    ones.

    544

    00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,200

    And then she was able to later on in life be able to impact at Huntsman Cancer Institute

    545

    00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080

    making over 200 ropes for cancer patients.

    546

    00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,000

    So again, look for those who are older than us, look for those who are younger than us

    547

    00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000

    that can teach us things.

    548

    00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:39,080

    But then also look at our circles that we're in, just everyday life and learn from them

    549

    00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,240

    and reach out to them.

    550

    00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400

    Hey, would you mind kind of being my mentor?

    551

    00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360

    I mean, sometimes it just happens.

    552

    00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,000

    Other times if you just reach out and ask, they'll have more of an intentional connection

    553

    00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,000

    with you.

    554

    00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000

    I like that.

    555

    00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,440

    We're going to give your brother a shout out as well.

    556

    00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,840

    What's something that he has consulted you on that you're like, oh, that was good.

    557

    00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,840

    Oh, goodness.

    558

    00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,680

    Well, I have to shout out he actually is getting ready to retire.

    559

    00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,680

    So I'm so proud of him.

    560

    00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640

    He's been in the same business for over 28 years.

    561

    00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680

    So amazing, amazing man.

    562

    00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,160

    But I think one thing that he really helped me with is the leadership of other people.

    563

    00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,400

    He was really in fact on Holly's highlights, my podcast on season one, episode two, I believe

    564

    00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,220

    it was I had him on for how to be a leader others follow.

    565

    00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:26,600

    And he is that I mean, to the point that when they moved him to another location, they had

    566

    00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,360

    to say, but you can't take anyone with you because they all wanted to follow him.

    567

    00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:36,280

    So I think that's one of the main things that he would help me on is how to positively influence

    568

    00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:43,000

    other people when when sometimes I was too tentative on hurting their feelings or how

    569

    00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,080

    this would impact them or their family on decisions I had to make.

    570

    00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,200

    And he was very influential in just helping me get through that and in doing so in a caring

    571

    00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,260

    touch, but then also with a business mindset.

    572

    00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,260

    Love it.

    573

    00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:57,040

    Of course, we've talked a lot of business.

    574

    00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,520

    Yeah, we got to have some play too.

    575

    00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,240

    So you're almost off the hook here, but we always wrap up with a top three.

    576

    00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,760

    And what are your top three vacation destinations?

    577

    00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,280

    Oh, my top three vacation destinations that I want to travel to would number one be Prague.

    578

    00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,960

    And that is simply going back to my brother.

    579

    00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,400

    He's traveled everywhere.

    580

    00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,700

    And he said Prague was was his favorite.

    581

    00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,640

    So I want to go there.

    582

    00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,880

    Second one would be the Mediterranean, specifically Venice.

    583

    00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480

    I want to go and just do a gondola ride.

    584

    00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,040

    And I know Paris isn't necessarily right there, but I attach Paris into the Mediterranean

    585

    00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960

    because I'm willing to do that little plane hopper.

    586

    00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720

    And then the third one would be Greece.

    587

    00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360

    And again, going back to my parents, they traveled a lot and that was their favorite.

    588

    00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,920

    So I'd like to experience.

    589

    00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,960

    Yeah, Prague, Mediterranean, including Paris, and then Greece.

    590

    00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,960

    Lovely.

    591

    00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,200

    Well, I if you'd like to tap your brother, I will be in Prague days after your book comes

    592

    00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200

    out.

    593

    00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320

    So please send any recommend.

    594

    00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320

    All right, I will.

    595

    00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,320

    I will.

    596

    00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,320

    I'll check with them.

    597

    00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,320

    Excellent.

    598

    00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,320

    Thank you.

    599

    00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,320

    Thank you.

    600

    00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760

    And thank you for a lovely, wonderful conversation.

    601

    00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,800

    I know we were talking beforehand.

    602

    00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640

    I always feel inspired at the end of these podcasts.

    603

    00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960

    Mission accomplished again, because this was fantastic.

    604

    00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800

    It was such an honor to be on.

    605

    00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,800

    Thank you so much.

    606

    00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,800

    Absolutely.

    607

    00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,800

    Absolutely.

    608

    00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,560

    And if people want to learn more about you, check out all of the things that you're doing.

    609

    00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,640

    I feel like I need a pen and paper for all the all the things to go through and make

    610

    00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,920

    sure I'm finding everything.

    611

    00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,920

    Where can I find you?

    612

    00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,920

    I'll make it so simple.

    613

    00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,920

    Just go to hollycurby.com.

    614

    00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,920

    So that's H-O-L-L-Y-C-U-R-B-Y.com.

    615

    00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,920

    It has everything there.

    616

    00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,560

    As far as the book, it's available wherever you purchase your books.

    617

    00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,400

    So all bookstores as well as online retailers.

    618

    00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,720

    So whether it be Barnes and Noble, Walmart, or even going on and doing Amazon or Thrift

    619

    00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,720

    Books, it's available.

    620

    00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,160

    So go ahead and check it out.

    621

    00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,160

    Thank you.

    622

    00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,160

    Wonderful.

    623

    00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,160

    Thank you again, Holly.

    624

    00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,040

    And of course, we've got to end with a corny joke, as we always do.

    625

    00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,840

    Why are spiders so smart?

    626

    00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:01,120

    I feel like this should have something to do with their eight legs that I give up.

    627

    00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,120

    Why?

    628

    00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,920

    They can find everything on the web.

    629

    00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,360

    Get after them, people.

    630

    00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,600

    Good People, Cool Things is produced in Austin, Texas.

    631

    00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,100

    If you were a fan of this episode, go ahead and hit that follow button.

    632

    00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,400

    That helps more people hear the show.

    633

    00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,640

    You can send me a message, joey at goodpeoplecoolthings.com.

    634

    00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,520

    Thank you to all of the guests who have been on Good People, Cool Things.

    635

    00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,24You can check out all the old episodes via goodpeoplecoolthings.com.

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